Hello how are you doing?
I'm very good! You are actually catching me just after getting done our Wednesday training class.

Were you a fan of wrestling growing up?
You bet! I don't think anyone who is in wrestling was not a fan before they got into the business. I was a Hulkamaniac like the majority! lol

How did you get started in the wrestling business?
After graduating from Mount Allison University I decided it was either teachers college or wrestling. I started researching wrestling schools and once I found the one I felt comfortable with, my choice became easy. I had been wanting to be a wrestler from an early age.

Who trained you?
I trained with Al Snow. I will add though that when I trained Al was not in the WWE he was wrestling for a large independant called Smoky Mountain Wrestling run by Jim Cornette.

What qualifies someone to be a good wrestling trainer?
Actually being trained themselves!!!!!!!!!lol. Meaning they have more then 1 match or 1 year under their belt before they start training people! We have to much of the blind leading the blind in the wrestling business! If your trainer has never wrestled anywhere then how can he help you get anywhere? Common sense people!

What was the hardest part of your training?
The hardest part was breaking myself of my amateur back round. Al would always say "You big lug, you don't have to throw me, I will bump!" He told me the only one harder to break of this then me was Dan Severn (UFC Champion)

Tell us about your first match
WOW, my first match will surprise most people. My very first match was July 16 1995 in Koreaken Hall, Tokyo Japan vs Koji Kitao in the main event of a inter mixed martial arts show. I was by myself and boy was I nervous! I made $2000 U.S. for my very first match and a full week in Japan. I flew back to Ohio, my tag team partner Dlo Brown picked me up and we drove 5 1/2 hours to Ashland Kentucky, I worked 3 times and made $15, lol. Aint wrestling grand!

Where does your ring name come from?
They called me Crusher Kline in my first tour of Japan and it stuck from there.

If you could be compared to any wrestler who would you want it to be? why?
VADER- Big, Strong, Athletic

If you could work anybody past or present who would you pick?
VADER- for all the same reasons! lol

Who do you feel is the best indy wrestler in Canada?
The best indy wrestler in Canada? Tough, there are many good ones but I would go with my boy MVP- Michael Von Payton. Check him out if you have not seen him work.

Did you ever get any offers to come to the Maritimes to wrestle?
Yes actually way back in the mid 1990's when Emele Dupree was running steady. A friend of mine Scott Damore had set it up but I was running the World Wide Wrestling Alliance at the time and scheduling just never worked out.

Your thoughts on the current success that fellow Canadian Sarah Stock (Sarita) is having in TNA?
I have great admiration for anyone that works hard for what they want and she has worked hard! She deserves all the success!

Your thoughts on MMA and if you think its popularity will hurt wrestling
Wrestling has had its battles before and it has always survived! I believe a real up swing is coming!

What are your thoughts on the Kardinal Sinners/ Wrestling Reality TV show?
I think everything the boys are trying to do is great! Any exposure you can get can open up doors. They always know that if they need my services or If I can help them in anyway I will do that!

Your thoughs on if the WWE or TNA comes to town should other local wrestlers go and sit in the audience?
Absolutely NOT! The same fans that go to independant shows go to WWE and TNA. Why would they then pay $10-$15 to see a guy that was sitting beside them at the WWE show.

Who has been your favourite promoter to work for?
OTTO WANZ - C.A.T.C.H in Germany was a great promotion to work for! To bad it is not around anymore.

Do you have a least favourite?
There are many least favorites! lol but none that stiffed me on pay so No!

What was your favourite wrestling territory you worked in?
Smoky Mountain Wrestling - The Armstrongs, Rock and Roll Express, Buddy Landell, Gangstas, Cornette, Al Snow, Unibomb (Kane) so many guys to learn from. It was great!

Do you think that going to the gym is something alot of indy workers overlook?
YES - notice all in capitals! Get in the gym boys!

What would you say was your best match?
My best, hard to say, most memorable? Al Snow and I went 45 minutes in Metcalfe Ontario near my home in front of 1000 people. The match moved so well the referee puked over the side of the ring. (If I could find the tape its hilarious!)

Could you share a good road trip story with us?
Okay, here is one that might be a little different! One of the times over in Germany I was brought into Bremen to fight on a Super Card. I was scheduled to fight Duke Droese for the Heavyweight Title. Other guys brought in for the card were Ice Train (WCW), Doug Gilbert, Masa Chono, Savio Vega and Ludvig Borga. Anyway, we had a full week to kill before the show the next Saturday, needless to say we drank plenty of beer and had plenty of fun. By about Thursday Ludvig and I had become fast friends and decided we were going to sweat out some of the beer in the sauna. So in we go and we are just talking and in walk 4 Japanese photographers that were part of Chono's entourage. Now before I tell you more you have to understand Ludvig Borga. Before his run in WWF he was a legitimate MMA fighter and had fought many times for PRIDE in Japan. Needless to say the Japanese were not his favorite people at all! Anyway back to the story, so in walk these 4 little Japanese guys. Now remember Borga is 6ft5, 295, ripped up and at that time he is the Finnish Heavyweight Boxing Champion. So these lads sit down across from us and all of a sudden Borga jumps up, naked as a jay bird, walks across the room, lets out this big grunt and then turns his back to them and points with his thumb to his back and all 4 Japanese jump up and run out of the sauna! I was just sitting there like what the heck just happened. Ludvig sits back down chuckling and mumbling. I looked at him and said what the heck just happened. He turned his back to me and showed me the tattoo that he had running from his neck down his spine. I asked him what it meant. It was Japanese markings and it stated that he was the White Samurai. Then he proceeds to tell me that in Japanese legend the white samurai wipes out the whole Japanese race. Borga would like to do it for real. I still don't know why he is like that but those 4 Japanese guys certainly must believe because they left their towels behind. I thought it was funny anyway! lol

Why did you decide to become a trainer?
I don't think I ever really thought about becoming a trainer. I think it is something that just happened. When I originally trained, Al's school had dorm rooms. There was very little wrestling going on in Canada at the time so he suggested I stay as long as I could. I never expected it to be 12 years! lol. At first I was like a helper, DLO Brown was Al's assistant at the time. I would help Dlo or Al demonstrate whatever was being taught. I did that for about 1-2 years. Then Both Al and Dlo were away and I had to teach for a week. When Al got back the students told him that they enjoyed my training so I became an assistant. Dlo left the school and I took over Dlo's duties and started getting paid to help train. As time went by I had my room in the back of the gym where I lived for the next 8 years. So when I say I literally ate, slept and breathed pro wrestling! I did. Being able to do that has given me the understanding I have of Phsycology and the business. Iam no smarter then the next guy just created some opportunities and absorbed from veterans as much as I could. Honestly, if you look at the majority of Bodyslammers Students they understand and respect where they came from and where they need to go.

Tell us about the wrestling promotion you run
Rage Entertainment is a presenter of Big Time Pro Wrestling. Right now we are building our fan base in Ottawa. We run monthly shows at the training centre at Rideau Carleton Raceway and slots. We are working closely with the Ottawa 67's hockey club to bring good family entertainment. Anyone can check us out at www.ragewrestling.net

Your thoughts on one of your students Josh Kelly (JJB) getting a WWE tryout this past September.
Well it was a good week for Bodyslammers. I sent 6 guys for try outs that week. 5 were at Smackdown in Hamilton-Damian Styles,Reggie Marley, Frank Bradley, Michael Von Payton and Dave Titan. Josh got to try out at the pay per view in Montreal. When WWE called me they wanted to know if I had guys a certain age, size etc. Josh had followed everything I had told him about getting work and being professional. He had also added some muscle mass and you could tell he was really pushing to get better in every way. That makes it easy to choose who to send. I have plenty of students all learning the same stuff but do not follow through. Josh will go far if he keeps developing and stays a professional (Don't let it go to your head kid! lol I'll kick your ass! lol)

Any closing comments?
For all those looking to get into wrestling, please research wrestling schools! Ask questions like: Who are the trainers? Where have they worked? Do they have contacts? Get to a good school and legitimate trainers and never stop developing. I was always told by Jim Cornette " Kid, the minute you think you know everything, get the hell out!"
For all those that have emailed me about training in Saint John N.B. Iam in Ottawa Ontario now. If you want quality training in Atlantic Canada I recommend only 2 places. If Gary Williams is training at his Wildman Academy in Halifax or the Kardinal Sinners I believe (Mike Hughes, Brody Steele) are opening a school in PEI. If you are serious contact either of these schools. New Scott Iam sure could hook up the contact numbers.

Name Association

Brody Steele - Straight Shooter (gotta respect it!)

Kowboy Mike Hughes - Great performer

Trash Canyon - Intense

Gary Williams - Consumate Professional

JJB -Determined

Al Snow- Forgets more in a day then I will ever know!lol

Shawn Morgan - ?

Robert Roode - Hard Worker

Chi Chi Cruz - They missed the boat on him

Thank you for doing this interview - Anytime