Lets go back to April/ May 2007 you were on the
first ever Wrestling Reality Tour. Tell us what was like.
It was an experience I'll never forget that's for sure. It was so much different
than touring with Real Action Wrestling, just for the simple fact that it wasn't
your average tour, we were shooting for a television series. It was also really
great to have a lot of the Wildman Academy family involved in the tour. It was
a once in a lifetime opportunity for everyone involved I think, being a part
of the beginning of something so ground breaking, we all had our ups and downs
during the week but at the end of it we were all sad that it was only a short
tour.
What was your job on the tour?
Umm let me think of the fancy title they gave me....Event & Venue Manager
or something like that I think it was? Basically I took care of the wrestling
side of the events at the arenas, as well as working the door and merchandise
as usual, and we had an amazing woman named Marie France who took care of the
television aspect of things on our team, so we basically worked together with
her to make sure the show went off as smoothly as possible. Chris Madison also
helped me out with my end of the job and the security aspect of it. I definitely
couldn't have pulled it all off without him and Marie France, so they both deserve
mentioning.
For the first time you had the TV cameras around
you 24/7. What was that like?
I'm fairly camera shy so it took a little bit of getting used to. The producer
Greg Hemmings interviewed me in Sussex I believe and I was a nervous wreck over
it haha. Other than that the crew was so great it didn't take long to get used
to having cameras everywhere you turn, I just had to get used to making sure
I didn't interrupt anything that was being filmed while I was running around
doing my job.
Did you change anything about the way you are
because of the cameras being around all the time?
I don't think so no. We were all told to be ourselves, and when I was interviewed
I certainly didn't hold anything back. Basically the only thing that changed
with the cameras being around was not getting in their way while I was doing
my job as I mentioned before.
What did you think of the final product that
aired on The Fight Network?
I think I can speak for everyone when I say it's everything we hoped it would
be and more. The production team we had and the Fight Network did an amazing
job putting the episodes together, it was just night and day from the previous
pilots that had been shot. Greg Hemming's really got the vision the guys wanted
to pull off and was able to get it across perfectly. I think his dedication
to learning about wrestling combined with not having previously been a wrestling
fan made a great product that can be enjoyed by wrestling fans and non wrestling
fans alike.
Looking back at the tour is there anything you
would have done different?
I don't think so? I worked really hard as I always do and I don't think I let
anyone down in that aspect. I guess I would have liked to enjoy the after parties
a little more, but when you're dealing with all the money the events are taking
in, it's best you not be hung over while doing it haha.
I recently did an interview with Sidewinder about
being sent home early from the tour, what are your thoughts on what he said?
You know that's kind of a hard one to answer, since I don't know for sure if
he was actually told one thing by a producer and another thing by Pete. Personally,
I like Sidewinder very much but to me the fact that he is under age I don't
think he should have been drinking at all considering they were doing interviews
in the daytime especially since they were being taped at an establishment that
was one of our sponsors. After the shows are over and the whole after party
thing is going on, that would have been a different story, but I personally
think that unless someone in charge shoved a beer in his hand and demanded he
drink before/during his interviews he should have had the common sense not to
do so. I do believe he wasn't drunk, but I don't think underage drinking at
a sponsors establishment is ok, and I think he should have had enough common
sense to realize that. If things happened the way he said they did, I still
think he should have gone to Pete and double checked before doing so. Ultimately
the production team is looking for good TV, but Pete was very much "the
boss" of the tour, and I don't think Sidewinder was thinking of the long
term effects that not checking over something like that with Pete could have
for him and his career with WR. As those who watched saw, Sidewinder was a guy
that Peter wanted to give a big push as things progressed with the series, but
if you can't depend on someone to be responsible for their own actions that
is something that I know Pete and Rick both take very seriously. I do hope that
Sidewinder learned a lesson from the experience, and that we'll all get the
chance to see his full potential down the line. I also think that one incident
was a very small part in the reason he was sent home from the tour. He let the
office down in a lot of ways right from the start, and they just got to the
point where they realized the best thing they could do for him was to send him
home and hope he learned a lesson from it.
Why do you think Emile Dupree does not like the
Wrestling Reality idea?
Emile hates every promotion that runs in the Maritimes because he thinks he
owns the territory still, simple as that. It doesn't matter if he's not running
shows at the time, it doesn't matter if the shows are in towns he doesn't go
to, he doesn't like it. Wrestling Reality specifically I think struck a nerve
with him because of a few different factors. First of all he's thought Mike
Hughes and Peter Smith have been out to get him ever since they started Real
Action Wrestling which was originally intended to only run during the winter
months when Grand Prix was not running. So anything with their names attached
to it I think strike a nerve with him. I also think it didn't sit very well
with him that the Maritime Cup 3 in 2006 which was put on by New Scott and Sarah
Dunsworth but had the Wrestling Reality name on it drew a great crowd in Halifax,
and when Emile got word of that and ran a show there soon after and drew less
than 100 people, he wasn't impressed, and insisted they were "killing the
business". On that note Emile also has very old school ways about him still,
which isn't really a bad thing, I think there's definitely still a market for
that kind of show in this area, but everything that Wrestling Reality is, goes
against everything that Emile and all promoters that have been running shows
since the days before the business became exposed stand for. And finally I think
Emile probably thinks that Wrestling Reality is about exposing the business,
which really isn't the case. Wrestling Reality sheds a light on the lives of
the people that do this that aren't working for the WWE. It shows that there
is a lot more to the wrestling business than most people realize. Some people
are able to make a good living wrestling without working for Vince McMahon,
and on the other side of the spectrum it shows the people just getting into
the business with that raw hunger to make their mark on the wrestling world,
and it shows that there other options out there for people that don't like what
they see when they turn on their TV's on Monday night anymore. Emile is the
definition of old school though, so I know he'd have trouble seeing that, as
from what I know about him he's very set in his ways.
You had alot of contact with Lance Storm about
his comments on WR tell us about that
That was all a little bizarre to me to be honest. The time Lance was spending
emailing me back and forth in the debate we had going on was kind of surprising.
Because I don't think any of the wrestlers on the WR tour would have spent that
much time sending emails to someone he didn't know debating the whole thing.
I still think that Lance made his judgment of the series based on some things
that just weren't relevant. Our color commentator was great, I love the guy,
but he didn't know a lot about the wrestlers themselves, so when Lance Storm
sees Tommy Ozbourne coming out and our commentator referring to him as a veteran
when he's only had about 100 matches at that point, yeah I get that getting
under his skin, but it was an honest mistake on the commentators part. It's
been a while since the conversations so I can't remember everything we talked
about, but he lost me at telling me that Gary had no right to be training students.
It became very apparent to me that in his mind unless you have worked for WWE,
TNA, or WCW than you could not be a great wrestler or be qualified to train
other wrestlers. I think that was pretty much the end of our conversations as
I felt Lance was very biased on a lot of things. Lance Storm of course is familiar
with Leo Burke, and before Gary started his school he talked to Leo, and Leo
basically gave Gary his blessing that he was talented enough and had what it
takes to train wrestlers. I do respect Lance Storm, but I respect Leo Burke
a lot more based on who he is, what he's accomplished, the fact that he knows
Gary, has trained Gary and knows what he's capable of in the ring, etc. With
all due respect I don't feel that Lance has any right to pass that kind of judgment
on Gary's ability to train wrestlers, especially since I've heard nothing good
about any of the trainees that have come out of Lance's own school. I'll probably
get blasted for that but I don't really care. I'm sure there have been some
good students to come out of his school, it's not like I keep tabs on it, but
being there first hand and watching Gary train his students every weekend for
over a year, and seeing the talent that has come out of Gary's school, I think
it was an ignorant comment on Lance's part, and it was the end of the discussion
for me. He passed judgment on Gary's ability to train students without knowing
anywhere near what he would have to know to make the judgment he made. I respect
his opinion, he obviously knows more about wrestling than I do, but I'll take
Leo Burke's informed opinion over Lance Storm's uninformed opinion any day of
the week. While I'm being controversial I might as well be honest and say I
think Lance Storm is an overrated wrestler, and I have never even seen him lock
up properly. His lock ups are weak. Leo Burke taught Gary, who in turn teaches
his students, that it's the little things that make a good wrestler. For example,
anyone can lock up, you need to make the lock up mean something, you need to
make it look like you are in a fight. It should be like 2 bulls colliding, not
like ballroom dancing. Basically the goal is that all the fans know wrestling
is fake now, so when a good wrestler steps in the ring he should be able to
put on a match in a way that doesn't remind the fans of that fact, to do those
little things that make it look like an actual fight, not like something that
was choreographed, make every little thing mean something. And that starts with
a good lock up.
Your thoughts on Tommy Ozbourne someone that
was compared to a young Bobby Roode, and Gary's top student leaving the wrestling
business so early
I've got mixed emotions about that. When Jeff originally told me, I think I
was the first person he told, and I bawled my head off. Like cried for an hour
I'm not even kidding. He just has everything it takes to make it in this business,
and it's frustrating to see someone you care about who is up on this pedestal
of "this guy is going to be the next big thing here" and then to watch
him voluntarily walk off of that pedestal....I just couldn't wrap my head around
it. Jeff was always one of the most passionate about wrestling of Gary's students
so when he came out and told me that he might as well have told me he liked
to kill puppies, I was in disbelief. I'm not even kidding, I think I pretty
much went through the 5 stages of grief with it. At first I was in denial, I
just thought it had to have something to do with him and Krysta breaking up
(Gary is still in the denial stage by the way haha), then I got mad because
there are so many people out there that would KILL to have Jeff's natural ability
and there he was about to throw it all away because one day it was what he lived
for, and the next he wanted nothing to do with it. Then came bargaining, because
he wanted to quit before the WR tour as he felt it wasn't fair to take the spot
from someone who did want to pursue a career in wrestling, but Gary and I talked
him into doing the tour hoping being a part of something like that would snap
him out of it, then was depression, I couldn't even watch tapes of him wrestling
because it made me too sad that he was giving up on it, and now I'm finally
in the acceptance stage. I still don't know what exactly changed for him that
made him want to leave the business, but he's a very close friend and I also
want him to be happy. Right now he's attending school to become a firefighter
and training in MMA. I still think it's sad that he decided not to pursue wrestling,
but ultimately I don't think the wrestling lifestyle is what Jeff is looking
for, and when you talk to him today about Firefighting and MMA I see that same
spark in his eyes that he used to have for wrestling, so as long as I know he's
happy I'll support whatever he wants to do 100%.
Your thoughts on the upcoming ECPW show on June
1st
The show sounds like it's going to be one of the best around here in a long
time. I'm still not sure if I'm going to be able to get the time off of work
to go to it, so I'm kind of bummed about that, but it's clear that North Sydney
is in for a great night of wrestling.
At the end of last year there was alot of problems
going on the Wrestling Reality site and all of the maritimewrestling.com, why
have you given up doing all the websites you have done?
There was a lot going on in my family life at the time, and I realized I just
had to cut all negativity out of my life or I was going to go crazy. Ultimately
I wanted to cut all ties with wrestling because I realized I was almost being
sadistic in a way. The wrestling business is hard on the head, whatever your
involvement is in it. And I guess I just realized you know, wrestlers can put
up with this stuff because at the end of the day there's a payoff for them,
they get to step in that ring and do what they love, and that makes all the
bullshit and politics worth it. For me, I didn't have that, so I was dealing
with the bullshit side of things, without really getting anything out of it
for myself. Especially my involvement with Wrestling Reality. I've never been
one to censor my thoughts, and in being involved with WR that would have been
something I would have had to do from a business perspective, and I knew I'd
never be comfortable with that. So I stepped back and decided to end it there.
It was around then that I got to the acceptance stage in Tommy Ozbourne's decision
to quit the business haha. I think it was definitely the right choice for me,
not having to deal with the drama anymore has been great. I'm much happier and
less stressed out these days, I just figured life itself is stressful enough,
why would I subject myself to unnecessary stress for absolutely no reason? It
was definitely the right choice for me to make, and I'll always still support
local wrestling, I just don't want to be involved with it the way I was.
When Wrestling Reality runs again will you be
going back on tour?
Very, very doubtful. I don't have a crystal ball and can't predict the future,
and never say never but as of now I'd say the chances of that happening are
slim to none.
Have you got my Eva Angelina and Jenaveve Jolie
DVDs yet?
I'll have some ready for you by Friday night haha.
What is next for Cathy Yetman?
I don't really know haha. Obviously a wedding eventually, but my step Dad suffered
a stroke back in January, and things aren't looking good for him, so obviously
wedding plans are on hold for the time being as him and I are very close. Other
than that I just want to focus on whatever makes me happy in life, and I would
eventually like to go back to school to become a paralegal....but I want to
pay off my other student loans first. Oh and finding lots of DVD's for New Scott
of course hahaha.
Name Association
Tony Armstrong - Tony is a great guy
and has been a huge part of Wildman Academy, especially once we moved to Moncton
and it became hard for Gary to travel to Halifax as much as he would have liked
to. Tony put the students through a very different type of training than Gary
has done, in testing their limits and showing them that if a guy his size can
pull off the warm ups that he does, there is zero excuse for any of them to
not be able to work hard and do the same. He knows how to seperate the men from
the boys in that aspect.
Brody Steele - We've kind of had a complex
relationship in a way. The first few years I knew Peter I was terrified of him,
literally. But getting to see his softer side in his home life with his wife
and pets showed me a completely different side to him, and what a big heart
he has under the tough exterior. We have certainly butted heads over the years,
and I think it's probably because we're more alike than either of us really
wants to admit. When two people think they're always right there's bound to
be some tension haha. Overall though I have a lot of respect for him as a business
man and wrestler, and I'm very happy that him and his wife have finally gotten
the baby they've been waiting for, and I know he'll be a great father.
James Mason - I didn't get to really talk
to James much during the tour unfortunately, but I was blown away by how talented
he was in the ring. It's been brought up before, but I agree that he should
have had subtitles on him during the WR episodes, becasue I had no idea what
he was saying half the time, and my Mom dated a British guy for around 7 years
when I was younger LOL.
Krysta Lynn Scott - Oh I love Krysta to
death. She's just so much fun to be around, she lights up every room she's in,
and you can't help but have fun when you're with her. She's got so much passion
and talent, and I'm so glad that she has made the best out of her time out west,
I'm so proud of her. I'm very excited that she'll be back in Halifax for a little
while, it's not the same without her.
Purity Saint - It's funny because Krystle
and I have known eachother for ummm...8 years now I think? And for no reason
that I can remember, I absolutely hated her guts up until she joined the school
in 2006 and I was forced to get to know her. Then I was left perplexed as to
why I didn't like her in the first place. I love how outspoken she is, she's
so much fun to be around, she scored herself one HOT boyfriend out in Alberta
haha. And I think what I like most about her is that she knows that she has
limitations in the ring due to a knee injury, and she doesn't want to let that
stand in the way of her dreams. I hope nothing but the best for her out west,
but I also selfishly want her to come home so we can hang out again now that
I'm back in Halifax.
Chris Madison - That's a complicated one.
For once I'm not going to get into details on what exactly is going on there,
because I do respect Chris. All I can really say about him right now is that
Gary and I have always supported him, seriously loved him like a family member,
and would in a heartbeat bend over backwards to do anything we could to help
him out. I just hope for his sake that he truly is happy with his life and the
decisions he makes, and if he's reading this I want him to know that no matter
what has been going on Gary and I are still here for him and always will be
if he ever needs us. All I want for him is to be happy and to not have any regrets
when he looks back on this time in his life, so if he's 100% sure that he's
happy, he's doing what he wants, and he won't regret any of it down the road,
then I can respect that. If things don't turn out the way that he hopes they
will, we will still be here for him no matter what. Today, tomorrow, 5 years
down the road, we'll always be there for him, and always were whether he chooses
to believe that or not. I would also like Chris to know that if he ever wants
to talk to us about anything, he knows how to reach us. But we are only open
to speaking to Chris, and Chris alone
Mike Hughes - Glad that he's back and
involved with WR, he brings a lot to any roster he's a part of.
Jamie Hamilton - Haven't seen the fucker
in a while, hope his injuries heal up soon because he's very talented and I
think that he's done an amazing job in making up for his lack of size with his
charisma and talent in the ring.
Sexton Phoenix - Glad he's letting the
hair grow back hahah.
Zero - God I don't think I've seen him
since the WR tour? Poor guy had to put up with me, Jamie Hamilton (Dave), Chris
Madison, and Tommy Ozbourne (Jeff) in a car for the entire tour. Jeff didn't
get nearly as much enjoyment out of me, Dave, and Chris singing Backstreet Boys
songs as we did....and poor Zero had to listen to us singing and Jeff begging
us to stop. My favorite part of which was was when Jeff said, "Look, it's
not that you guys are bad.....you're just really not good". Haha maybe
we made him quit the business with our singing.
New Scott - My new best friend now that I am "the porn seller" LOL.